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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:46 am    Post subject: The way forward/Battling a mountain of prejudice Reply with quote

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=26554&cat_id=9

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He’s a Turkish Cypriot, she’s a Greek Cypriot: happily married but facing a daily struggle to be accepted

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Speaking to the Sunday Mail from their home in Surrey, he said: “She was standing at the counter talking to my mother in Greek when my mother called me over to introduce us. She said, ‘look Ibrahim, it’s someone from Cyprus’. That’s when I looked into her eyes and fell in love. I told myself ‘you’re going to be my wife’.”

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They also refuse to send their children to Greek or Turkish schools in the UK.

“I don’t like what they teach. I don’t want my children to be taught bad things about Turkish people. Their dad’s a Turk, they’re half Turkish. It’s wrong,” Helen said.
Ibrahim feels the same way.

He said: “I don’t want anyone poisoning my children’s minds. They are half Turkish and half Greek. They know something happened in Cyprus but there are too many untruths and stories. If they want to learn [more], they can do so by themselves. We’re not going to teach our kids to hate where their mum and dad come from and their people.”


What goes on in Greek/Turkish school???
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:46 am    Post subject: The way forward Reply with quote

From the Sunday Mail

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=26554&cat_id=9
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps someone can merge this with the thread I just opened on the same article...

The Turkish Cypriot guy also had a letter to the editor in yesterday:
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=26560&cat_id=8

mod note: done.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Battling a mountain of prejudice Reply with quote

pg wrote:
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.php?id=26554&cat_id=9

Quote:
He’s a Turkish Cypriot, she’s a Greek Cypriot: happily married but facing a daily struggle to be accepted

...

Speaking to the Sunday Mail from their home in Surrey, he said: “She was standing at the counter talking to my mother in Greek when my mother called me over to introduce us. She said, ‘look Ibrahim, it’s someone from Cyprus’. That’s when I looked into her eyes and fell in love. I told myself ‘you’re going to be my wife’.”

...

They also refuse to send their children to Greek or Turkish schools in the UK.

“I don’t like what they teach. I don’t want my children to be taught bad things about Turkish people. Their dad’s a Turk, they’re half Turkish. It’s wrong,” Helen said.
Ibrahim feels the same way.

He said: “I don’t want anyone poisoning my children’s minds. They are half Turkish and half Greek. They know something happened in Cyprus but there are too many untruths and stories. If they want to learn [more], they can do so by themselves. We’re not going to teach our kids to hate where their mum and dad come from and their people.”


What goes on in Greek/Turkish school???


Quite possibly nothing.

A few months ago there was a disgraceful programme on Radio 4 (a supposedly "responsible" radio station) about Islamic schools in the UK.

The programme approached a number of schools asking for access and all but one refused (a mistake, as it gave the impression there was something to hide).

The journalist, in the school that did allow access, most cleverly painted a sinister picture through tone of voice - nothing prejudicial was said directly. I was waiting for them to open a door and say something like "And here is the Year 9 class. Thirty girls in headscarves, each assembling bomb parts laid out on their desks."

In fact, there was nothing out of the ordinary going on at all; unfortunately, the defensiveness of the headteacher and staff (no surprise given the attitude of the journalist) conjured up the impression that there was something wrong.

I complained to the BBC and keep getting "we are evaluating your complaint" letters back ...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's tragic that these two good Cypriots have been treated so abominably by their own families and communities.

They are an inspiration.

I am embarrassed that I come from a race which includes so many obstinate donkeys. I'd like to grab the heads of all idiotic, brainwashed extremist 'nationalist' Cypriots - on both sides - and smash them together.

I'd like to but, of course, I never would - because violence, anger and hatred breeds only more of the same.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chantal Saperstein

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Cypriot wrote:
It's tragic that these two good Cypriots have been treated so abominably by their own families and communities.

They are an inspiration.

I am embarrassed that I come from a race which includes so many obstinate donkeys. I'd like to grab the heads of all idiotic, brainwashed extremist 'nationalist' Cypriots - on both sides - and smash them together.

I'd like to but, of course, I never would - because violence, anger and hatred breeds only more of the same.


Some times i really feel like that Cypriot....It's the time i wish i was a Dictator for 6 months or so...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you guys, looks like the article refers to our friend Eric Dayi:

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“There is one nationality and that is Cypriot. There are no Turkish Cypriots or Greek Cypriots, only Turkish-speaking Cypriots and Greek-speaking Cypriots. People that feel Greek Cypriot or Turkish Cypriot should move to Greece or Turkey and leave us [Cypriots] alone to get on with rebuilding the trust that is non-existent at the moment…



Meanwhile... I find it ironic that they mentions this when throught the article they keep saying "my wife is greek and i am turkish"
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

magikthrill wrote:


Meanwhile... I find it ironic that they mentions this when throught the article they keep saying "my wife is greek and i am turkish"


Old stupid habits die hard. It's got to the point now when I feel like screaming at Cypriots who call themselves 'Greek' or 'Turks' to wake up from their recurring nightmares.

The other day I met an old school friend of my missus who said her husband was a 'northern Greek'.

I assumed that maybe he was from somewhere like Thesaloniki but it transpires that he's a Cypriot from Manchester.

Language is a dangerous thing in the mouths of the ignorant.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, in my greek school I was never once taught to "hate the Turks", however suprisingly i did learn how to speak Greek.......hehehe Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

where do you originally come from..or whats your ethnicity
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My uncle (mum's younger brother) also is married to a Greek Cypriot and they got married in 1974 Shocked and the family on both sides refused to go except my parents and the two younger aunts and her younger sister, like the above mentioned couple they suffered extremely at the hands of both communities and at the wedding i remember as we was walking out the registry office some extremist Greek Cypriot came to upset the ceremony but my dad and mums two younger sisters husbands 'sorted' them out.

They have 3 sons and they also never sent them to greek or turkish school and as they grew up they all investigated and decided for themselves what they thought of cyprus and its problem.

Ironically my aunts name is also Helen. Shocked Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:56 pm    Post subject: I find it ironic that they mentions this when throught the Reply with quote

[quote="magikthrill"]you guys, looks like the article refers to our friend Eric Dayi:

Quote:

“There is one nationality and that is Cypriot. There are no Turkish Cypriots or Greek Cypriots, only Turkish-speaking Cypriots and Greek-speaking Cypriots. People that feel Greek Cypriot or Turkish Cypriot should move to Greece or Turkey and leave us [Cypriots] alone to get on with rebuilding the trust that is non-existent at the moment…



Meanwhile... ] Why don't you open your mind a little ? if i didn't state what we were you wouldn't have understood[b]
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:19 pm    Post subject: Re: I find it ironic that they mentions this when throught t Reply with quote

[quote="100%cypriot"]
magikthrill wrote:
you guys, looks like the article refers to our friend Eric Dayi:

Quote:

"There is one nationality and that is Cypriot. There are no Turkish Cypriots or Greek Cypriots, only Turkish-speaking Cypriots and Greek-speaking Cypriots. People that feel Greek Cypriot or Turkish Cypriot should move to Greece or Turkey and leave us [Cypriots] alone to get on with rebuilding the trust that is non-existent at the moment…



Meanwhile... ] Why don't you open your mind a little ? if i didn't state what we were you wouldn't have understood[b]
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Is this jibberih supposed to be aimed at me?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:43 pm    Post subject: Re: I find it ironic that they mentions this when throught t Reply with quote

Debate is good for the intelligent.
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